rocco very much tried to contact holmes and didn't like what he heard and holmes never called him again and never used that rifle range. >> now, craig. it looks like he and his lawyer setting up insanity defense. eyes are going all over the place. that looks like where they want to go here. are you getting that impression? >> right. where else can they go? it's the only port in this storm. i think the highlight of the first appearance was the appearance of the defendant. a lot of people are looking at him. does he look crazy? does he look remorseful? but ultimately it's going to be up to mental health professionals and a jury. i expect insanity defense and if the mental health defense does not work in terms of guilt or innocence, they are going to try to use it to spare him from capital punishment. >> bill: now, john on friday there was a report that when holmes' mother in san diego was contacted by the press she said you have the right person it was clarified today by the family lawyer by saying the mother meant you have the right person, i'm his mother it just points out again the dif